Conn saxophone serial dating

e) 32877 lowest non "P" recorded,also based on brass this could be 1929. Since I am not specifically studying those brands, I could easily mistake them.

However, this is a problem considering Stock market crash and next model start. While I have possible dates for some of the model changes as mentioned above, I am looking for documentation to support them. Because of the serial number similarity, I am wondering what may have happening with Sears and the Elkhart manufacturers at that time, although it could be coincidence.

Currently the sample has grown to 873 examples with 693 saxes and 155 woodwinds.

I am continuing together examples and documentation so I can use all the help I can get.

I started gathering serial numbers for Pan American woodwinds back in January to prove they are under a system different than brass.

By March, I was able to prove this owing to several duplicated numbers.

3) There are stencils, commonly referred to as Conn stencils from the 1917-1918 time period.

Since Pan American as a line was started in 1917 and these stencils have differences from the standard Conn line, I would classify them as Pan American stencils, not Conn. This would be consistent with the brass, with the exception that the brass did start from serial 1 and went to"P" with serials in the P13000 range.

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I decided, I needed to consolidate and start a new thread so those interested can participate, comment or just observe.

Since posting the updated system,the brass sample has grown 20% and the results are still valid.

I continue to gather the brass as the next step is to determine the production of the different instrument types.

For other readers, here are pics of my Pan American alto which you identified as a 64M model from the 1930's, serial number 46676, with some close-ups of its interesting micro-tuner neck.https://forum.saxontheweb.net/album.php?

albumid=884 I am assuming this one (5833) has the 1915 Hardy patent stamp and the T type as opposed to the Mercedes type key guard?

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